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		<title>By: A Healthy Blog &#187; Senate President&#8217;s Short-term Cost Bill To Be Debated Tuesday</title>
		<link>http://blog.hcfama.org/2009/12/29/great-scott-browns-misdiagnosis/#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Healthy Blog &#187; Senate President&#8217;s Short-term Cost Bill To Be Debated Tuesday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 03:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] filed non-binding amendments (#5 and #47) to impose a moratorium an new mandated benefits. This was tried before and promptly ignored, and it distracts attention away from real cost drivers and instead blames [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] filed non-binding amendments (#5 and #47) to impose a moratorium an new mandated benefits. This was tried before and promptly ignored, and it distracts attention away from real cost drivers and instead blames [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Howard</title>
		<link>http://blog.hcfama.org/2009/12/29/great-scott-browns-misdiagnosis/#comment-2675</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;According to the DHCFP report, infertility services is ranked #5 in total cost (including medical and administrative costs) among all the mandates, at $2.68 per member per month (0.9% of premium), which is far less than maternity, #1 at $11.18 pmpm (3.7% of premium).&lt;/i&gt;

Umm, doesn&#039;t IVF coverage result in people needing maternity care?  And from what I understand, IVF is far more likely to result in high risk and expensive pregnancies, while natural pregnancies tend to result in natural births of healthier babies.  And we don&#039;t need to spend so much money on trying to save premature babies.  We could spend an infinite amount on incubators and the like and still not save every baby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>According to the DHCFP report, infertility services is ranked #5 in total cost (including medical and administrative costs) among all the mandates, at $2.68 per member per month (0.9% of premium), which is far less than maternity, #1 at $11.18 pmpm (3.7% of premium).</i></p>
<p>Umm, doesn&#8217;t IVF coverage result in people needing maternity care?  And from what I understand, IVF is far more likely to result in high risk and expensive pregnancies, while natural pregnancies tend to result in natural births of healthier babies.  And we don&#8217;t need to spend so much money on trying to save premature babies.  We could spend an infinite amount on incubators and the like and still not save every baby.</p>
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		<title>By: A Healthy Blog &#187; Governor Patrick: “We have to dial up the sense of urgency&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Healthy Blog &#187; Governor Patrick: “We have to dial up the sense of urgency&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] are not a major driver of health care costs, and the state already has a rational process to evaluate the costs and benefits of proposed [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: A Healthy Blog &#187; Dumb and Dumber</title>
		<link>http://blog.hcfama.org/2009/12/29/great-scott-browns-misdiagnosis/#comment-2673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Healthy Blog &#187; Dumb and Dumber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Candidate Scott Brown has focused on mandated benefits, which contribute little to health care cost [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Opus #6</title>
		<link>http://blog.hcfama.org/2009/12/29/great-scott-browns-misdiagnosis/#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Opus #6]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stop the dems craziness on Jan 19th and help get Scott Brown elected. His vote in the senate is #41 and blocks this legislation from ever getting to the senate floor.
STOP Obamacare NOW!

Scott Brown (R) is leading 48-47 in Massachusetts!!!! http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/01/toss-up-in-massachu...

This is the special US senate race on Jan 19th. Scott says he will vote to KILL Obamacare if he is elected. He is Republican vote #41 and blocks cloture and KILLS the healthcare bill. We have made up 30 points in the last month and are ahead by one!
Organizing for America just sent out info for a phone bank for Coakley (D) yesterday. MoveOn.org and SEIU are pouring money into the race to get Coakley elected. Bill Clinton and Kerry are going to Massachusetts to help We NEED to win this one.
Scott Brown needs our help and the national phone bank is the key. Please join today
People across the country are calling, and Tea Party and 912 groups everywhere are getting involved as well. If all of us make calls for the next 8 days with a HUGE get out the vote calls on Jan 19th then we CAN win. Scott&#039;s vote is #41 in the Senate and KILLS Obamacare, Cap and Trade and anything else the Dems throw at us. Do NOT allow another progressive backed by SEIU into the senate!
To join the national phone bank go to:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDFVMGxFamFFbkFMcE...

OR
http://www.brownforussenate.com/
OR
Tea Party Phone Bank for Brown site at:

http://brownbrigade.ning.com/group/teapartyphonebankbrownbrigade

Scott was just on Hannity’s TV show and said he will vote NO which will KILL the healthcare bill.

Make this the VOTE HEARD ROUND THE WORLD!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop the dems craziness on Jan 19th and help get Scott Brown elected. His vote in the senate is #41 and blocks this legislation from ever getting to the senate floor.<br />
STOP Obamacare NOW!</p>
<p>Scott Brown (R) is leading 48-47 in Massachusetts!!!! <a href="http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/01/toss-up-in-massachu.." rel="nofollow">http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/01/toss-up-in-massachu..</a>.</p>
<p>This is the special US senate race on Jan 19th. Scott says he will vote to KILL Obamacare if he is elected. He is Republican vote #41 and blocks cloture and KILLS the healthcare bill. We have made up 30 points in the last month and are ahead by one!<br />
Organizing for America just sent out info for a phone bank for Coakley (D) yesterday. MoveOn.org and SEIU are pouring money into the race to get Coakley elected. Bill Clinton and Kerry are going to Massachusetts to help We NEED to win this one.<br />
Scott Brown needs our help and the national phone bank is the key. Please join today<br />
People across the country are calling, and Tea Party and 912 groups everywhere are getting involved as well. If all of us make calls for the next 8 days with a HUGE get out the vote calls on Jan 19th then we CAN win. Scott&#8217;s vote is #41 in the Senate and KILLS Obamacare, Cap and Trade and anything else the Dems throw at us. Do NOT allow another progressive backed by SEIU into the senate!<br />
To join the national phone bank go to:</p>
<p><a href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDFVMGxFamFFbkFMcE.." rel="nofollow">https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDFVMGxFamFFbkFMcE..</a>.</p>
<p>OR<br />
<a href="http://www.brownforussenate.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.brownforussenate.com/</a><br />
OR<br />
Tea Party Phone Bank for Brown site at:</p>
<p><a href="http://brownbrigade.ning.com/group/teapartyphonebankbrownbrigade" rel="nofollow">http://brownbrigade.ning.com/group/teapartyphonebankbrownbrigade</a></p>
<p>Scott was just on Hannity’s TV show and said he will vote NO which will KILL the healthcare bill.</p>
<p>Make this the VOTE HEARD ROUND THE WORLD!</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy T.</title>
		<link>http://blog.hcfama.org/2009/12/29/great-scott-browns-misdiagnosis/#comment-2671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi MCC is a tax,

According to the DHCFP report, infertility services is ranked #5 in total cost (including medical and administrative costs) among all the mandates, at $2.68 per member per month (0.9% of premium), which is far less than maternity, #1 at $11.18 pmpm (3.7% of premium).  I think it&#039;s fair to assume that this is one of the mandates that would be less likely to be offered were it not mandated, although before the mandate many providers and patients received coverage for some infertility-related services by unbundling them and billing them with other types of diagnosis codes. I suspect this would happen again (and probably does happen now in many self-funded plans that don&#039;t provide infertility coverage) so I doubt premiums would decline by the full estimated cost of the mandate.

The infertility mandate generates lots of discussion, but not really that much cost. My daughter was conceived with the help of infertility services, so I&#039;m not a neutral commentator on the value of these services.  Ironically, because my family was covered under a self-funded plan at the time, we didn&#039;t have health plan coverage for any of the services.  So I understand fully the inequities between insured and self-insured plans that Amy is talking about in her post.  And I also understand that employers will not necessarily voluntarily decide to cover certain services without mandated coverage (BTW, that self funded plan also didn&#039;t cover diabetes supplies or quite a few of the other mandates).

Nancy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi MCC is a tax,</p>
<p>According to the DHCFP report, infertility services is ranked #5 in total cost (including medical and administrative costs) among all the mandates, at $2.68 per member per month (0.9% of premium), which is far less than maternity, #1 at $11.18 pmpm (3.7% of premium).  I think it&#8217;s fair to assume that this is one of the mandates that would be less likely to be offered were it not mandated, although before the mandate many providers and patients received coverage for some infertility-related services by unbundling them and billing them with other types of diagnosis codes. I suspect this would happen again (and probably does happen now in many self-funded plans that don&#8217;t provide infertility coverage) so I doubt premiums would decline by the full estimated cost of the mandate.</p>
<p>The infertility mandate generates lots of discussion, but not really that much cost. My daughter was conceived with the help of infertility services, so I&#8217;m not a neutral commentator on the value of these services.  Ironically, because my family was covered under a self-funded plan at the time, we didn&#8217;t have health plan coverage for any of the services.  So I understand fully the inequities between insured and self-insured plans that Amy is talking about in her post.  And I also understand that employers will not necessarily voluntarily decide to cover certain services without mandated coverage (BTW, that self funded plan also didn&#8217;t cover diabetes supplies or quite a few of the other mandates).</p>
<p>Nancy</p>
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		<title>By: MCC is a tax</title>
		<link>http://blog.hcfama.org/2009/12/29/great-scott-browns-misdiagnosis/#comment-2670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MCC is a tax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both of you ladies forgot to mention invitro as a Mass mandated benefit.  Only 15 states cover invitro and this benefit has a larger impact on premiums than maternity coverage according to CAHI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of you ladies forgot to mention invitro as a Mass mandated benefit.  Only 15 states cover invitro and this benefit has a larger impact on premiums than maternity coverage according to CAHI.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy T.</title>
		<link>http://blog.hcfama.org/2009/12/29/great-scott-browns-misdiagnosis/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amy,

I wish Massachusetts could impose uniform benefits for people who have  health coverage in the state but it cannot because of ERISA.  The individual mandate is, of course, very tricky  because of this. While I support most of the mandates, I don&#039;t think including them all in MCC would be very wise, from a policy or political pespective.  Maybe federal reform will create a uniform system of regulating health plans (although I fear we’ll sink to the lowest common denominator if it does).  Until then, we’ll have to live with inconsistency and balance carefully the scope of the MCC benefits with a world in which the state cannot reach self-funded plans, and so needs to be very careful about imposing requirements on individuals for benefit designs that the state cannot enforce on employers that have self-funded plans.   It creates a messy and unfair configuration of plans, for sure.

I think we&#039;ve had more transparency about the cost of the mandates in the last year than ever before because of the analyses done by the Division of Health Care Finance and Policy.  We now have pretty clear evidence, as the initial post suggests, that the mandates, despite all the arguments to the contrary are not a major reason why health insurance is expensive. (They account for about 3-4 months of the currernt trend in health insurance premiums….so we could eliminate them all and not get much relief from cost pressures…)  We know that just a handful of the mandates account for most of the cost of mandates.  The top four mandates--maternity, mental health, home health, and preventive care for children-- account for 75% of the total cost of the mandated benefits (about 9% of premiums).  My question to Senator Brown and other opponents of the mandates is:  which of these mandates do we want to abolish?(Federal law requires maternity coverage, so that&#039;s not an option.)    And if we did eliminate them all, what’s your plan for cost control 3-4 months later?

As a public health person, I don&#039;t find the fact that some mandated benefits would be voluntarily offered by some employers in the absence of state or federal mandates, to be a compelling reason to eliminate them. Most of the mandates are for services that insurers--and purchasers-- have historically undervalued or which have positive effects on the health of people in the Commonwealth.  I&#039;d note, in particular, that at least half of the mandates, and maybe more, target services for women and children.  To me, the mandates are an extremely important issue for the health of women and families, ensuring access to important services--at least within the insured plans that the state can legally reach.

These mandates include:
For women: maternity health care ; contraceptive services; hormone replacement therapy; scalp hair prostheses for cancer patients; cytologic screening; and mammography.  Mandates that are primarily for children: preventive care for children up to age six (including specific newborn testing); early intervention services; low protein food products for inherited amino acid and organic acid diseases; nonprescription enteral formulas; speech, hearing, and language disorders; hearing screening for newborns; and lead poisoning screening.

While I might personally quibble with a few of the mandates, I think most of them reflect sound decisions by the legislature to require coverage for services that have positive externalities for all of us, and so promote the health of the public (with a strong focus on the health of women and children).  The total cost of doing so is very low, and well worth it, in my opinion. And experience suggests that we cannot rely on the market to make sound public policy or public health decisions in these important areas.

The biggest cost of the mandates, to me, is that our endless discussion about them distracts us from the real work that needs to be done to contain health care costs.

Nancy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>I wish Massachusetts could impose uniform benefits for people who have  health coverage in the state but it cannot because of ERISA.  The individual mandate is, of course, very tricky  because of this. While I support most of the mandates, I don&#8217;t think including them all in MCC would be very wise, from a policy or political pespective.  Maybe federal reform will create a uniform system of regulating health plans (although I fear we’ll sink to the lowest common denominator if it does).  Until then, we’ll have to live with inconsistency and balance carefully the scope of the MCC benefits with a world in which the state cannot reach self-funded plans, and so needs to be very careful about imposing requirements on individuals for benefit designs that the state cannot enforce on employers that have self-funded plans.   It creates a messy and unfair configuration of plans, for sure.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve had more transparency about the cost of the mandates in the last year than ever before because of the analyses done by the Division of Health Care Finance and Policy.  We now have pretty clear evidence, as the initial post suggests, that the mandates, despite all the arguments to the contrary are not a major reason why health insurance is expensive. (They account for about 3-4 months of the currernt trend in health insurance premiums….so we could eliminate them all and not get much relief from cost pressures…)  We know that just a handful of the mandates account for most of the cost of mandates.  The top four mandates&#8211;maternity, mental health, home health, and preventive care for children&#8211; account for 75% of the total cost of the mandated benefits (about 9% of premiums).  My question to Senator Brown and other opponents of the mandates is:  which of these mandates do we want to abolish?(Federal law requires maternity coverage, so that&#8217;s not an option.)    And if we did eliminate them all, what’s your plan for cost control 3-4 months later?</p>
<p>As a public health person, I don&#8217;t find the fact that some mandated benefits would be voluntarily offered by some employers in the absence of state or federal mandates, to be a compelling reason to eliminate them. Most of the mandates are for services that insurers&#8211;and purchasers&#8211; have historically undervalued or which have positive effects on the health of people in the Commonwealth.  I&#8217;d note, in particular, that at least half of the mandates, and maybe more, target services for women and children.  To me, the mandates are an extremely important issue for the health of women and families, ensuring access to important services&#8211;at least within the insured plans that the state can legally reach.</p>
<p>These mandates include:<br />
For women: maternity health care ; contraceptive services; hormone replacement therapy; scalp hair prostheses for cancer patients; cytologic screening; and mammography.  Mandates that are primarily for children: preventive care for children up to age six (including specific newborn testing); early intervention services; low protein food products for inherited amino acid and organic acid diseases; nonprescription enteral formulas; speech, hearing, and language disorders; hearing screening for newborns; and lead poisoning screening.</p>
<p>While I might personally quibble with a few of the mandates, I think most of them reflect sound decisions by the legislature to require coverage for services that have positive externalities for all of us, and so promote the health of the public (with a strong focus on the health of women and children).  The total cost of doing so is very low, and well worth it, in my opinion. And experience suggests that we cannot rely on the market to make sound public policy or public health decisions in these important areas.</p>
<p>The biggest cost of the mandates, to me, is that our endless discussion about them distracts us from the real work that needs to be done to contain health care costs.</p>
<p>Nancy</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Lischko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy Lischko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, I agree that this bill is not the answer to our health care cost woes. However, I really think some honesty on your part about why you think it makes sense that mandated benefits that apply only to fully insured businesses (mostly smaller companies)is fair? Now that we have an individual mandate, wouldn&#039;t it be better to discuss these benefits in the open and have a full dialog about the costs and benefits of each? If they make so much sense,everyone in MA should have them and they should be imbedded in creditable coverage language not hidden in obscure legislation. And, let&#039;s be honest about diabetes coverage. People who work for large self-insured firms have diabetes coverage and the firms are not &quot;mandated&quot; to cover it. I wish we could all meet in the middle on this issue once and for all.  A good New Year&#039;s resolution would be to end rhetoric on both sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I agree that this bill is not the answer to our health care cost woes. However, I really think some honesty on your part about why you think it makes sense that mandated benefits that apply only to fully insured businesses (mostly smaller companies)is fair? Now that we have an individual mandate, wouldn&#8217;t it be better to discuss these benefits in the open and have a full dialog about the costs and benefits of each? If they make so much sense,everyone in MA should have them and they should be imbedded in creditable coverage language not hidden in obscure legislation. And, let&#8217;s be honest about diabetes coverage. People who work for large self-insured firms have diabetes coverage and the firms are not &#8220;mandated&#8221; to cover it. I wish we could all meet in the middle on this issue once and for all.  A good New Year&#8217;s resolution would be to end rhetoric on both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And, as for comparing health insurance to auto insurance, what about those that don’t drive?&quot;

Exactly, &quot;?&quot;.

 One can opt out of driving. Driving is , after all, a privelage. Last time I checked, existing is not. Ergo, the mandate (which exists in MA, and the other 49 states if Mr. Hussein Obama has his way) should be considered unlawful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And, as for comparing health insurance to auto insurance, what about those that don’t drive?&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly, &#8220;?&#8221;.</p>
<p> One can opt out of driving. Driving is , after all, a privelage. Last time I checked, existing is not. Ergo, the mandate (which exists in MA, and the other 49 states if Mr. Hussein Obama has his way) should be considered unlawful.</p>
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